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Edward Norton is one helluvan actor, but you, my friend, are one helluvan insightful cynic:

1- Driving through the highway today and see the 407 sign again. It dawn to me why would the government sell it to a Brazilian corporation. I believe they paid 1.4 mil for it.

Alas, your history is not quite accurate. In fact, the Ontario government gave a 99-year lease on the 407 to a Canadian consortium of companies in 1999 for $3.1 billion. That group later sold the majority share to a Spanish conglomerate, which still reaps majority of revenue, etc. There's also a Montreal group that holds a significant portion of ownership, as well as the Canadian Pension Plan, which bought a 10% share for $900 million 2 years ago, presumably making the road worth $9 billion in 2010.

Question is why?. Over a period of years we could get that money back and more.

You are absolutely right, we could have got that $3.1 billion back and more. Probably within just the time frame since the Ontario government gave it away at such a ridiculous bargain.

Why is the real question. And the answer is not only annoyingly simple, it also reflects the simplistic minds in control of the province at that time.

The 407 was completed in 1997, at a cost of $1.6 billion. Two years later, as the Harris government was looking for re-election. Trumpeting "fiscal responsibility" and "balanced budget" and (their beloved phrase) the "common sense revolution," they flogged the highway for a so-called 100% profit.

Hard to imagine anything more short-sighted, basically killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.

But that's the nature of privatization, which Tory governments love so much. Call it instant gratification. Cash in the coffers which looks good on today's spread sheets. Fuck the future generations.

Forget about the fact that in less than 10 years from giving away the lease, that highway would generate a half-billion bucks revenue annually. Just brag about conservative values and fiscal prudence and "common sense revolution."

Why worry about the bills your kid and mine will have to foot. At least Mike Harris got re-elected. By a whopping majority in 905 as it turns out, somewhat ironically.

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Edit: While I was writing this, Sheik came up with some more specific details, so apologies for wandering into the Department of Redundancy Department.
 
Thanks Art and Sheik. Sorry meat Spain not Brazil. But this is something I was looking for and Art got it right.

Forget about the fact that in less than 10 years from giving away the lease, that highway would generate a half-billion bucks revenue annually. Just brag about conservative values and fiscal prudence and "common sense revolution."
 
This one goes back to 1973-1975 can't remember which year. Peterson's liberal years, was to link the GTA to Hamilton and surrounding areas. The original price tag was 20 + million and escalated to 1.5 billion. Talk about corruption here. Then the projected future building of the 407 was to hit a couple of Billions. That is why I think they sold it.
 
I can't believe the weather lately. It's January and haven't worn my heavy duty winter coat yet.
 
I can't believe Ronald Wayne sold his 10% share of Apple back in the 70s for $800 + $1,500... :SayWhat?:

That 10% is now worth $35 Billion.... $35,000,000,000.00

He could have become Batman! Hmmmmmm
 
I can't believe the weather lately. It's January and haven't worn my heavy duty winter coat yet.

ummm it was minus 22 this morning where I am, count yourself lucky!!!

(and I had to work outside too!)
 
Woman hangs boyfriend's dog


Police said a Des Moines woman was charged with animal torture after she hanged and killed her boyfriend’s dog on Saturday.


The dog was a 10-year-old pit bull mix that, according to police, annoyed 28-year-old Sheena Cornwell.

Cornwell’s now-ex-boyfriend Joshua VanDyke said she doesn’t see what’s wrong with what she did. He said Cornwell heard the dog bark and snapped, but he didn’t know her intentions when she walked outside.
Before he realized what was happening, VanDyke said he heard his dog Lilly banging against the garage door. He said Cornwell watched the dog die and then calmly told him that Lilly was taken care of.

Police said at this point, VanDyke went outside, found Lilly hanging in the garage from the rafters by her collar with the leash strung up on the rafters.
Director of the St. Francis Foundation for Pets Lin Sorenson said Cornwell’s actions are disturbing for several reasons.

“The statistics show that those that abuse animals go on later and become convicted of violence against people,” Sorenson said.
Because of Iowa’s animal abuse laws, Sorenson said it will cost taxpayers $6,000 to prosecute the case.

“There will be an autopsy involved,” she said. “If she only paid the fine, and didn’t do jail time, she would get off for free, for the horrible death that she brought to this dog.”






 
SEATTLE -- A terrified teen was forced to hand over his savings to a robber not once but twice in two days, according to the Seattle Police Department.

According to the police report for the incident, a 15-year-old was on the way to the BECU ATM at the Ballard Safeway to deposit some money in his savings account around 4:30 p.m. last Sunday when he was accosted by a stranger in the parking lot.

The teen later told officers the stranger put his arm around his shoulders and said, "I want you to take money out of your account. If you don't take money out of the ATM, I will hurt you."

The man walked the teen to the door and waited outside while the teen withdrew $160 from his savings account.

According to the report, the teen handed over the money, and the man told him to meet him there the next day to give him more money, adding that he knows where the teen lives.

The teen came back at 6:30 p.m. the next day and gave the man another $80 from his savings account, according to the report.

The teen eventually told a relative what happened a few days later, and the relative called police.
 
TORONTO - Cops are looking for a man wanted in the theft of a $26,000 extremely rare bottle of scotch.

On April 7, the suspect visited the LCBO on Cooper St., entered the vintage section and picked up a 700ml bottle of 50-year-old Glenfiddich single malt scotch that was covered in glass. He picked up a bottle of wine, too.

The man paid for the wine but left without paying for the scotch, police said. There are only 15 bottles of this particular scotch available in Ontario and 50 worldwide.

The suspect is white, 35-55 years old, about 5-foot-10 and clean-shaven. He wore a Burberry plaid shirt, brown hat, black jeans and brown trench coat.

 
Fatso said:
TORONTO - Cops are looking for a man wanted in the theft of a $26,000 extremely rare bottle of scotch.

On April 7, the suspect visited the LCBO on Cooper St., entered the vintage section and picked up a 700ml bottle of 50-year-old Glenfiddich single malt scotch that was covered in glass. He picked up a bottle of wine, too.

The man paid for the wine but left without paying for the scotch, police said. There are only 15 bottles of this particular scotch available in Ontario and 50 worldwide.

The suspect is white, 35-55 years old, about 5-foot-10 and clean-shaven. He wore a Burberry plaid shirt, brown hat, black jeans and brown trench coat.



I hope he doesn't mix it with coke.
 
Fatso said:
TORONTO - Cops are looking for a man wanted in the theft of a $26,000 extremely rare bottle of scotch.

On April 7, the suspect visited the LCBO on Cooper St., entered the vintage section and picked up a 700ml bottle of 50-year-old Glenfiddich single malt scotch that was covered in glass. He picked up a bottle of wine, too.

The man paid for the wine but left without paying for the scotch, police said. There are only 15 bottles of this particular scotch available in Ontario and 50 worldwide.

The suspect is white, 35-55 years old, about 5-foot-10 and clean-shaven. He wore a Burberry plaid shirt, brown hat, black jeans and brown trench coat.



Shows you how incompetent the LCBO staff is and they want to go on strike for more pay on Victoria day.
 
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