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First of all is it predominantly Muslim? Second of all let's say a big chunk of the population are Muslim. So what? Is being Muslim a crime or something? Are you anti-Muslim because of all the racist propaganda you see on news and media?

Muslims make up a tiny proportion of the current population and you and Jessica think just allowing refugees to come here will turn the entire country into a Muslim country because of your own irrational fears of PoC sharing the same space as you entitled white people. What's next? Gay pride will turn everybody in the country gay resulting in less procreation? Oh wait... there are actually people here who believe in that bullshit. Never mind.

You didn't answer the question?

But I will answer yours. Yes I am anti Islam.

Of course it could also said that except for Buddhism I am pretty much anti religion right down the line. But Islam tops my list.
 
You didn't answer the question?

But I will answer yours. Yes I am anti Islam.

Of course it could also said that except for Buddhism I am pretty much anti religion right down the line. But Islam tops my list.

How do you feel about Christians then? Are you okay with this country being predominantly Christian influencing the law system and infringing upon women's rights, LGBTQ rights, and other things like removing sex ed from students' curriculums?

Thanks for admitting that you're anti-Islam by the way.
 
How do you feel about Christians then? Are you okay with this country being predominantly Christian influencing the law system and infringing upon women's rights, LGBTQ rights, and other things like removing sex ed from students' curriculums?

Thanks for admitting that you're anti-Islam by the way.

I'm not big on Christianity either. Their history really is nothing to be proud of but as of late there are signs to more open thinking. An example being the United Church be receptive to gay members.

Now if you think The Christians are infringing upon womens rights and the LGBTQ. Can you just imagine what the Muslims would have in store for them should they be the prevailing religion in this country?
 
I never said anything about Muslims not being able to practice their regilion. I think I said the opposite actually. I agreed with their rights. I just think they should take their issues to their church, their god, their "insert whatever here" instead of asking for special accommodations.


I don't think we should have the Lord's Prayer in school and I don't think we should swear on a bible. I think religion and law should be separate.

Just making that clear. I won't fight with some with clear mental health issues but I won't be falsely labeled either.
 
I'm not big on Christianity either. Their history really is nothing to be proud of but as of late there are signs to more open thinking. An example being the United Church be receptive to gay members.

Now if you think The Christians are infringing upon womens rights and the LGBTQ. Can you just imagine what the Muslims would have in store for them should they be the prevailing religion in this country?

You don't need to imagine what it would be like in North America - you can see their thoughts, policies and practices related to diversity and human rights in live action, and in all it's tolerant glory in any predominantly Islamic state on the global landscape TODAY. North America will be no different should the extremist Islamic agenda be allowed to advanced unchecked.
 
You don't need to imagine what it would be like in North America - you can see their thoughts, policies and practices related to diversity and human rights in live action, and in all it's tolerant glory in any predominantly Islamic state on the global landscape TODAY. North America will be no different should the extremist Islamic agenda be allowed to advanced unchecked.

And that is what scares the bejeezers out of me.
 
I never said anything about Muslims not being able to practice their regilion. I think I said the opposite actually. I agreed with their rights. I just think they should take their issues to their church, their god, their "insert whatever here" instead of asking for special accommodations.


I don't think we should have the Lord's Prayer in school and I don't think we should swear on a bible. I think religion and law should be separate.

Just making that clear. I won't fight with some with clear mental health issues but I won't be falsely labeled either.

So then your solution is to vote for Doug Ford because better to bar all the refugees from coming into Canada than to let a bunch of them in including a select few who might "possibly" exploit the whole system. At the end of the day if refugees couldn't come into Canada or U.S. then their only other option is to die in their own country.

I support refugees full-on; there's plenty of empty condos available for them to live in. And tax deficit can be simply solved by taxing rich wealthy CEO's and Billionaires, like for instance your "consistently asshole" sugar daddy Damien.
 
Back on topic: What can I say? Doug Ford is a piece of shit. Putting his own brother's wife into poverty just so he can make a few bucks.

You would expect fewer and fewer people to vote for him after that incident in this enlightened country but NOPE.
 
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This is beautiful but sad.

Very true. I hope all Ontarians that voted for Dalton McGuinty and Kathleen Wynne over the past 15 years swallowed hard in shame upon reading this. The Ontario of today is their legacy as much as the Liberal leaders'.
 
I voted Liberal for the federal election as I couldn't vote for Harper based on the change he made to the sex laws.

But I realize it is sometimes it is better to be more conservative and sacrifice.

We have had a homeless crisis here in Toronto. We have refugees who have waited in war torn countries for way to long going about the process the right way, we have veterans and seniors that need care, we have children going hungry. These people deserve our attention first and foremost.

Then and only then should we expand beyond that. Only then can we feasible do so. Ontario is in a horrific financial spot now and someone has to the piper. It is either us or our children or their children if we last that long. But someone has to pay.

No way would we be able to pay that when we openly let in illegally border crossing people into the province. The drain on an already crumbling system would be the ultimate death of us. Not to mention all the other plans for socialism spending. With the way Ontario already is financially, there was no choice but to go where the spending wouldn't be out of control.

As much as I would love to help out everyone, it is just not possible. You have to put your own oxygen mask first on a plane before someone else. Why? because you are useless when you are dead.

We do do a lot of humanitarian aid and we take in a lot of refugees. I am good with that. I am not okay with some people illegally crossing into Canada and over to Ontario from the US to get away from Trump, slipping a head of refugees in actual terrorist war torn countries.
 
Very true. I hope all Ontarians that voted for Dalton McGuinty and Kathleen Wynne over the past 15 years swallowed hard in shame upon reading this. The Ontario of today is their legacy as much as the Liberal leaders'.

True that, but also the same voters, who's reality is some were in La La land, then simply voted for the socialists, instead of the Fiberals.

Plus those who make their decisions in life based on hate, as repeatedly documented here, should not have a vote, let alone a drivers licence.

One can only hope that their genes are not passed on to another generation, so there is hope.
 
True that, but also the same voters, who's reality is some were in La La land, then simply voted for the socialists, instead of the Fiberals.

Plus those who make their decisions in life based on hate, as repeatedly documented here, should not have a vote, let alone a drivers licence.

One can only hope that their genes are not passed on to another generation, so there is hope.


I disagree with one part. Everyone has a right to vote and I agree with that right.

There is a difference between hate for hate sake and hate due to unresolved mental health and emotionally based trauma.

I am the first to admit admit I was wrong for calling CA sexist, racist or a bigot. CA is suffering and therefore lashing out. It is symptomatic. Treat the issue, the symptoms go away.

As opposed to someone who just hates for hate sake. That will never go away and that is what truly distroys people individually and in society as a whole.

For CA, NDP was the better choice. For them and their lifestyle. Nothing wrong with that. I won't comdemn them thier right to vote for who would work best for them. I can see how a Ford majority would be scary for those like CA.

See the other difference here. I don't agree with CAs posting because I feel they are more harmful to them then good. You have an issue with trans/fuild/gender identify people. So you are lashing out in a passive aggressive way for the purpose of upset them. That is why you use the "it" all the time when referring to CA. That in itself is transphobic statement. So heads up, I ain't got no problem reporting you every time I see you post like that.

As I have repeated stated, CA in this condition should be ignored. However I didn't mean that as a negative to them. I mean that as to stop the negativity that continue to drive them further into mental and emotional harm. So if you can't say something nice, then leave them alone. You are purposely doing harm to someone and you need to stop.
 
I disagree with one part. Everyone has a right to vote and I agree with that right.

There is a difference between hate for hate sake and hate due to unresolved mental health and emotionally based trauma.

I am the first to admit admit I was wrong for calling CA sexist, racist or a bigot. CA is suffering and therefore lashing out. It is symptomatic. Treat the issue, the symptoms go away.

As opposed to someone who just hates for hate sake. That will never go away and that is what truly distroys people individually and in society as a whole.

For CA, NDP was the better choice. For them and their lifestyle. Nothing wrong with that. I won't comdemn them thier right to vote for who would work best for them. I can see how a Ford majority would be scary for those like CA.

See the other difference here. I don't agree with CAs posting because I feel they are more harmful to them then good. You have an issue with trans/fuild/gender identify people. So you are lashing out in a passive aggressive way for the purpose of upset them. That is why you use the "it" all the time when referring to CA. That in itself is transphobic statement. So heads up, I ain't got no problem reporting you every time I see you post like that.

As I have repeated stated, CA in this condition should be ignored. However I didn't mean that as a negative to them. I mean that as to stop the negativity that continue to drive them further into mental and emotional harm. So if you can't say something nice, then leave them alone. You are purposely doing harm to someone and you need to stop.

You got some things correct here, others completely off base.

- Thinking that compassion will solve the issue here on this board, will solve NOTHING.

- If I comment negatively about a member, it has NOTHING to do with their condition, I give a shit, but simply replying in kind to initiated, uncalled for personal insults.

- The ONLY way to solve this issue here, is for every member ignore it, and do NOT show any support.

- This being an escort review board, I personally would not see any SP that is desperate enough to spend time with the mentally deranged.

Edit - If some one posts,... "white men", with no other defining characterises, and then followed by a derogative, that is racism.

- And respect, is NOT earned by initiating personal attacks, that's not how it works in a civilised environment.
 
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You got some things correct here, others completely off base.

- Thinking that compassion will solve the issue here on this board, will solve NOTHING.

- If I comment negatively about a member, it has NOTHING to do with their condition, I give a shit, but simply replying in kind to initiated, uncalled for insults.

- The ONLY way to solve this issue here, is for every member ignore it, and do NOT show any support.

- This being an escort review board, I personally would not see any SP that is desperate enough to spend time with the mentally deranged.

but as always, there is one thing missing from you.

respect.
 
Thanks Jessica I like your attitude now. I disagree with your assertion that I'm lashing out because of my mental illness (again you don't KNOW me or my mental illness, do you ever listen???), but better for you to say that than for you to call me an "it" or openly dehumanize gay, trans, and LGBT people or any people of colour, or wish that kids with autism or any illness should be "put into separate institutions". And what do you mean by me "suffering"? I'm perfectly well and fine thank you. Do you understand the term "gaslighting"? Maybe you should SERIOUSLY look that term up.

Jessica let's just agree to disagree okay? We're not going to be able to agree with everything and you're not going to be able to grasp my idea of privilege or white cis-gender heterosexual male entitlement. Thanks for reporting Robertson's posts on calling me "it" but you know what's also good? If you stop silencing me with my "mental illness" label every time I call out men like Robertson or Damien for intentionally misgendering me or making dumbass arguments that severely hurt marginalized communities.

So truce? Let's truce. :) I'm sorry for calling you Damien's puppet, that you don't care about sex work activism, or that you don't believe that Muslim people should practice their religion. Now it's your turn. Apologize for calling me a "sick dog", for forcing me to get banned from HUBGFE, for silencing and gaslighting me by using my own mental illness as your weapon, for saying "I don't care about about white Christian man", for dozens of other ad hominim attacks aimed to silence me to put me in my place because I dared to speak out against the vile amounts of homophobia and transphobia on this forum.

Holy shit you have done significantly more harm to me than I have ever done to you, assuming that... Damien is not influencing your views. I don't know, and honestly I should not care. You life your life and his life is his.
 
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As for your Ford vs NDP argument, I also disagree on one part that you said. Barring refugees from entering into Canada will NOT allow homeless people, veterans, orphans, people living under poverty, etc. to be treated better. For one thing Ford does not give two shits about anybody living under the poverty line, he only wants his rich upper class buddies to profit.

Instead of the "it's better to put your own oxygen mask first before other people" analogy this is assuming that oxygen masks already exist on the plane. Ford will be the equivalent of cutting out all oxygen masks and removing every safety feature and instead spend money on fancy extravagant rocket wings or missiles on planes. Whether you are a refugee, a homeless person, a veteran, or anybody living in poverty Ford will never be your friend.
 
I'm sorry for calling you Damien's puppet ... Damien is not influencing your views.

Are you sure about that? :666:




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CA

I am going to try my best here but you are still not going to like what I have to say.

First. I know all about gaslighting. All about it. I am not gaslighting you. Not at all. Just because someone brings up mental illness ( which you openly admit to) doesn't mean I am gaslighting you. I am not trying to make you feel crazy, I am not trying to insert one idea, then flip to another, taking Yu along for the ride then switching it all up, claiming you to have thought of it all and blaming you in some way. I am not sowing seeds of doubt or anything else related to gaslighting.

It is my opinion, based on your posting, based on my experience (which you don't know about me either) - that you are suffering in your mental illness and lashing out. It is in my opinion, that you have unresolved issues that cause you to rage so hard on these boards. It is my opinion that you read into things that are not there because you automatically feel insult first. I would be a million dollars you have a hard time taking a compliment and don't believe when someone truly likes you for you.

I don't think this board is healthy for you. Not with the generally shared opinions of some based on your difference of those opinions. I believe that you truly believe you are advocating but I feel it takes a toll on you here. Also I don't agree, I guess, with your style of advocating if that style is to do a "tit for tat" style. If someone calls you an "it", I feel it is better to educate or hold places like this board accountable. I don't think name calling back is the way to go. I also think when you post those raged filled posts, that you are walking into the baited trap they set and you fall for it hook, line and sinker. Which I feel is unhealthy. That is again just my opinion. You can see the difference between my style of addressing him on the "it" issue and your way.

Now people will say "but Jess - you are such a cunt in some of your post" and it is true. But I don't have the same rage and anger. I post off the cuff comments and one liners (but just a bunch of them in one post). This is what I am good at but they are not emotional based posts. When I am being serious, you can tell because I actually take the time to respectfully share my serious opinion. For you, you can see the upset caused. You can see the hurt, the offended feelings, and then the following rage and anger. There is a difference but again, in my opinion.

I never said you were a sick dog. Again you didn't read properly and took insult where it was not directed at you. The dogs who are taken, forced into the ring, treated poorly and abused are the victims. The sick fucks are the ones who net and watch and take joy out of it. Those who bait you here, knowing that you suffer from a mental illness, knowing that you are not cis-gendered, knowing all your triggers and buttons, are in my
opinion, wrong for doing so. The analogy I made was not to insult you. But that is how you took it. It is not something I will apologize for. I didn't not insult you.

I will not aplogize for "gaslighting" and if I am being really honest, I am offended you would play that card. If you don't truly know what gaslighting is, you should not be using the term. Also, I am not trying to silence you. I will report your rage filled insult throwing posts just like I will Robertson when he refers to you as "it". Both are wrong. Saying that is "gaslighting" you, sharing my opinion about your mental illness and what I feel is symptomatic behaviours is not gaslighting. To be honest, you screaming that in every post is almost, READ ALMOST akin to false rape accusations. And as someone who has experience, heavy experience in the mental health field, it could be highly offensive to be falsely accused of gaslighting when it is the furthest thing from the truth. However, again I feel it is a lashing out due to uncontrollable rage due to unresolved issues and lack of proper mental health care and maintenance so I don't take it personally. Just like I don't take it personally when any other patient lashes out. I know it is not me, it is the illness. Again - my opinion.

So you can agree to disagree. These are simply my opinions. I do not and will not add to what I think is someone suffering from mental health issues. I will also not support an asian based review board, nor half the asian agencies I see. I won't see men who review asian agencies (thankfully most stick to what they love) but why you may ask, because I personally feel way to much sex slavery and human trafficking happen in asian markets. I don't deny they happen else where as well, I fully admit I could be wrong about few places but that is my opinion and I will do everything in my power to avoid enabling places like them. All based on my personal opinion.

My personal opinion is that these boards are not healthy for you. You say that you need to have the oxgyen mask in the plane first, well sweetie - you need a have place that will actually hear what you say. I would say a black person, who has admitted mental health issues, who rages In posts, who gets baited in posts, posting on a known KKK site, is also someone who should be removed from the site. Because it is not healthy for them either. They will NEVER make a change on a board like that. They will drive themselves further into suffering for trying.

If you are so passionate about advocting, then maybe put your energy into an area where actual change may be possible. You have already said over and over this board is "this", "that" and the other regarding some of the things you feel strongly about. For someone to make change here, they need to be one step removed from
the personal heartache these posts cause. I personally don't believe you are strong enough emotionally at this point to handle these types of posts, threads, etc.

And let's talk privilege - you seem to think you are the only one marginalized. That what? Because I am white, heterosexual and have money I have not suffered or that I am not marginalized. Thanks for the assumption about me but Hello? I am a woman. That in itself marginalizes me. Privilege is intersectional. It actually has many components. Race, gender, sexual orientation, wealth, religion, age, health/disability, etc. There are more like where you live country wise, education etc but the main list is there. So yes, my race does and has brought me privilege, my cis-gender as well but you don't know my wealth, when I got it, how I got or even if I truly have it. You don't know my faith, you don't know my health, you don't even know my sexual orientation. You assume. However, I have had to suffer in the face of others privilege. Certainly not as much as a black gay woman in a poor country who is of the Muslim faith but I know about priviledge and I fight very hard for equality. To insert otherwise is again, an attempt by you to insult me because you dislike my opinions of you personally. Instead of being able to step back emotionally and address the issue in the debate directly. That is why I feel you are not emotionally or mental fit for this board at this time.

I could go on and on but this post is long enough. My opinion has not changed. It appears you just like that opinion when it is directed to someone else. However my opinions are the same for everyone. No privildged treatment on my part.

So why don't I tell D to stop??? Because there is no point. D will go at you as hard as you go at him. That is how he is. If you don't like it, you don't engage him. He is an asshole. He knows he is, I know he is and treat him accordingly. And if you think he hasn't gone after me just as hard, you haven't read all his posts. We disagree and he attacks me when we do. I just don't both voicing my disagreement with him anymore. I am secure enough in my opinions, I am secure enough in knowing when and where to use my energy and where to not bother. I made this choice with D a long time ago. That is how I choose to deal with him based in my personal opinion of him. But even going toe-to-toe with D is not going to do him or me harm. We can call each the most foul of names in one there and laugh and joke in another. We are separated emotionally from our posts. In my opinion, you are not and that is why these boards are harmful to you and why, if you can't leave on your own taking your own self care into account and seeing the importance of your and your emotional safety and well being, then I will continue to encourage others to ignore you, to not bait you, and will encourage the bird to take the rights steps, be accountable and responsible for itself membership and give you the time away you need.

Again - all just my opinion. I know you will not like it, I accept that. I do however hope you can see it is with care and willingness to support and help that I write these things. Not to insult, shame, or silence. I say speak up but only when it will not cause you personal harm which right now I do not believe is possible. I am actually looking out for you even though you don't believe it.

And I tried to find the spelling and grammer mistakes but I am on my phone and can only do so much with no real time to have even spent posting all this but I felt it was important enough to try and explain again. Because I felt you - CA - are important, your feelings are important and I wanted to ensure I addressed it again in as nice of a way as possible. So while I spent the time, I hope you will excuse the spelling.
 
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