SCREENING

[EroticExoticIndian]

I'm from the East Indies (India to be exact)

and always run a screening process when one of the many lovely girls wants to be my wife!

 

[Olivia Grace]

I'm not going to judge how other ladies choose to screen, but I think it's a little extreme to try and paint our screening processes in a negative way - when the specific example is NOT the norm in this industry.

For the regular gents on here who DO see indies and attend meet and greets - well they are at an advantage in that either we have met them in person before, or at least many of our colleagues have in addition to seeing them in sessions. So yes, when they have references and are well known board members it's not as necessary for some to ask for their personal information.

But the majority of men who contact us are NOT these types of clients. Please understand we have screening procedures because most of the inquiries we get are from anonymous people, with either no board history/no board handle, no references or old references that don't work anymore and they are very vague in their inquiries.

So when you receive anonymous vague inquiries so frequently as we do in the Toronto market we have to have a way from distinguishing REAL inquiries from serious gentlemen, from time wasters too scared to ever book, creeps who just want to chat for free or ask for pics, and the real dangerous guys like batman and other trolls who are trying to fake book us to out our personal information/incall locations online. (Maybe some of you don't see this, but he does this all over the red board and blue board constantly, it's a valid concern). I personally had batman trying to fake book me and a lot of my friends under fake handles/names for over 6 months last year. So when a new inquirer does not have any reference info nor established board history - there's no other option for screening really than personal screening to know they are a real person.

I find most of the posters on HUBGFE here only see agency ladies anyway, but there are lots of readers who are too shy to post and this perspective might be valuable for them to understand.

I also find it kind of sad that there is fear mongering going around. When we tour the USA where it is ILLEGAL we seem to have no problem getting full real names from clients, along with their company information AND references and board handles. Down there it's normal and expected to prove that THEY are not cops/pimps/fake bookers etc.

So while I can appreciate that some gents are very wary and concerned about their personal information - it is on you as well to make sure you only see ladies you can trust. It's not fair to paint us all with one brush like anyone asking for personal information in lieu of a reference would do anything with your information. And if you're the type of guy who hurts/harasses ladies well you can't be surprised if your email/cell number gets blacklisted but even still that's likely the worst they will get.

Blackmailing/informing is BAD for business and we're in this business to make money and to try and stay as safe as we can. Those of us who try to show we are established, are well known and reliable should be given some credit here for our ability to be discreet. It does seem interesting to me though that those most concerned with anonymity tend to see more girls on average - so that's your choice. But many of the providers out there prefer to have regular clientele and not cater to random anonymous guys looking for a one off encounter - as safety is important to us as well.

Also any comments about avoiding deposits really irk me. When someone is unknown or requesting us to travel and they want a long date - a deposit is very useful in determining they are serious and necessary so we don't waste our time setting aside a whole day/paying for travel. It's rather ridiculous to make an offhand comment like that without any other information. Perhaps it would be more helpful to readers to say be careful of who you send deposits to in that you make sure they are a reputable provider first. It's obviously a different risk if you're asked for a deposit from someone totally unknown or who is known for having a dozen different names and numbers versus an established lady in the industry for many years. Any known provider ripping off clients would be found out about as well. And who wants to ruin their business and reputation by "stealing" a deposit of a few hundred dollars or less? Give me a break.

Again there are many more readers on here than board participants, so my comments may not be directed at you, but to the general readers to explain both sides and why some providers may operate their business with some restrictions mentioned in this thread.

I honestly can't say it better. I would rather lose out on an appointment than be put in an unsafe situation.

Xoxo,

Olivia

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[Madman]

I'm not going to judge how other ladies choose to screen, but I think it's a little extreme to try and paint our screening processes in a negative way - when the specific example is NOT the norm in this industry.

For the regular gents on here who DO see indies and attend meet and greets - well they are at an advantage in that either we have met them in person before, or at least many of our colleagues have in addition to seeing them in sessions. So yes, when they have references and are well known board members it's not as necessary for some to ask for their personal information.

But the majority of men who contact us are NOT these types of clients. Please understand we have screening procedures because most of the inquiries we get are from anonymous people, with either no board history/no board handle, no references or old references that don't work anymore and they are very vague in their inquiries.

So when you receive anonymous vague inquiries so frequently as we do in the Toronto market we have to have a way from distinguishing REAL inquiries from serious gentlemen, from time wasters too scared to ever book, creeps who just want to chat for free or ask for pics, and the real dangerous guys like batman and other trolls who are trying to fake book us to out our personal information/incall locations online. (Maybe some of you don't see this, but he does this all over the red board and blue board constantly, it's a valid concern). I personally had batman trying to fake book me and a lot of my friends under fake handles/names for over 6 months last year. So when a new inquirer does not have any reference info nor established board history - there's no other option for screening really than personal screening to know they are a real person.

I find most of the posters on HUBGFE here only see agency ladies anyway, but there are lots of readers who are too shy to post and this perspective might be valuable for them to understand.

I also find it kind of sad that there is fear mongering going around. When we tour the USA where it is ILLEGAL we seem to have no problem getting full real names from clients, along with their company information AND references and board handles. Down there it's normal and expected to prove that THEY are not cops/pimps/fake bookers etc.

So while I can appreciate that some gents are very wary and concerned about their personal information - it is on you as well to make sure you only see ladies you can trust. It's not fair to paint us all with one brush like anyone asking for personal information in lieu of a reference would do anything with your information. And if you're the type of guy who hurts/harasses ladies well you can't be surprised if your email/cell number gets blacklisted but even still that's likely the worst they will get.

Blackmailing/informing is BAD for business and we're in this business to make money and to try and stay as safe as we can. Those of us who try to show we are established, are well known and reliable should be given some credit here for our ability to be discreet. It does seem interesting to me though that those most concerned with anonymity tend to see more girls on average - so that's your choice. But many of the providers out there prefer to have regular clientele and not cater to random anonymous guys looking for a one off encounter - as safety is important to us as well.

Also any comments about avoiding deposits really irk me. When someone is unknown or requesting us to travel and they want a long date - a deposit is very useful in determining they are serious and necessary so we don't waste our time setting aside a whole day/paying for travel. It's rather ridiculous to make an offhand comment like that without any other information. Perhaps it would be more helpful to readers to say be careful of who you send deposits to in that you make sure they are a reputable provider first. It's obviously a different risk if you're asked for a deposit from someone totally unknown or who is known for having a dozen different names and numbers versus an established lady in the industry for many years. Any known provider ripping off clients would be found out about as well. And who wants to ruin their business and reputation by "stealing" a deposit of a few hundred dollars or less? Give me a break.

Again there are many more readers on here than board participants, so my comments may not be directed at you, but to the general readers to explain both sides and why some providers may operate their business with some restrictions mentioned in this thread.

I can understand the more stringent screening on anonymous individuals who have no track record and I can also understand a deposit on a travel gig, perhaps even an over-nighter.

Coming from our perspective, if the process is too difficult why bother? This is why so many see agency girls as opposed to independents. Less costly for the same amount of time with less hoops for established hobbyist to go through. This by no means is aimed at you, you seem like a delightful smart young woman, I'm speaking more in generalities.

 

[Shay Lovell]

Then go and see ladies who don't screen. Every single one of my lovely guests and patrons had no issue filling out my screening form. It takes all of what 10 minutes?? To be honest after having an awful encounter with an "established hobbyist" Where I was left quietly having panic attacks due to not being comfortable showed that the screening is also necessary to even accommodate. To say the least "thread reputation" is BULLSHIT. If you need a quick fix than, no a screening form is not for you.

The point that we are all trying to make is why are you even questioning it, if you won't go through the screening process? Just see girls who don't screen and leave it at that. I've had patrons when I first began, inquire but were scared to see me because I DIDN'T screen. The fact that you're complaining about this is absolutely juvenile and you need to give it a rest. We will continue to screen and the people that we would like to cater to will continue to fill them out in order to book an arrangement with us. If you don't deal with girls who screen than why are you so inclined to have answers? This doesn't concern you at all and does not affect you. There are so many reasons that we require screening and it annoys me that, this bothers you. Get over it.


SAFETY and ACCOMMODATIONS is priority as a companion and screening is the best way to keep these as priority. I'd also like to know the whole hobbyist thing? Do you get like a gold metal or something?? Your status doesn't assume who you are your personality does, how you present yourself does. All in all we are all different and not all puzzle pieces fit together. Just becuase you are reputable does not necessarily mean I can accommodate you. I hear hobbyist and I hear some narrator from the discovery channel assessing a lion hunting it's prey. Sorry not sorry.

 

[CharloteEdwards]

It is true that board credibility gives us no assurance of safety or good chemistry. I've had a few "hobbyists" book me and be rather ungentlemanly and treat me like a sex doll and some have even hurt me pretty severely. One time I had to go to the emergency room and couldn't work for 6 weeks because I took a chance seeing a "board member" with no reference. Never again. How is a 1 hour appt worth being out of work for 6 weeks? It just isn't.

I know what is easier - I just don't like the attitude of easiest is best, because honestly you guys don't realize what some of the agency girls have to put up with for their 60% cut.

The pros are that yes they don't have to pay a fortune in hotels/incall space and advertising, but they have absolutely no choice when it comes to which new clients walk through the door. They may be able to blacklist someone after the fact, but this is generally only for them and most of the Toronto incall agencies will send the same bad apple to another girl on the roster - caring only about their bottom line. There is a huge difference in how I feel about myself and my business now that I am indy versus working at an agency. I can actually consent to who I see and have a better chance of assuring good chemistry with someone. Whereas if you work for an agency and you have a bad behaving entitled client - well he can threaten to give you a bad review or go to the owner and demand they make it right, when if the lady had known what type of client he was she could have chosen to decline or suggest he find someone more to his service style.

After talking to many of my friends who used to work for agencies, they are much happier being independent, not just because they don't have to split their cut of the fee, but now they are able to throw someone out for bad behaviour or forcing them to do unsafe services etc without fear from their boss. Numerous girls have told me that an agency owner told her she had to be "good" to certain well known reviewers (not necessarily on this board) regardless of what they wanted - his happiness trumped all. And they were forced to deal with guys pushing their boundaries for porn star services they didn't want to give, and even fighting off guys trying to push them for bbfs.

And then there's the stories of agencies miscounting the girls money and demanding she pay more if someone lost it or creepy drivers trying to get free services from them etc.

There is a good side AND a bad side, and unfortunately many of you only focus on your side and don't realize why so many agency girls start and quit right away or go indy so fast. There's a lot of bad apples out there and by acting entitled like you don't care about our safety or security and you just want a cheap and anonymous easy lay - well you can see why some of us aren't having it anymore. Most of you have no idea how many agency girls are forced to or think they have to offer a huge PSE menu to even get a few bookings each week, when they don't want to. Or how many times someone has told me they had to turn away guys they saw at an agency for having visible STD's and how horrified they were they didn't care and came in to see them anyway.

I would say that about 25% of clients are really great in how they treat us, most are just average (again how they treat us), and then the remaining about are just rude/unhygienic/intolerable and this is why everyone says YMMV so much with ladies. You guys may THINK you know some of these guys based on their board personality, but a lot of them are completely different in session and not necessarily gentlemen.

While we can't insist that you see our side in this matter, it doesn't hurt to bring it up for those who are interested in knowing what it's like being an SP who doesn't have a choice in who she has to see.

Whenever I hear a guy saying he only wants to book agency girls because it's easier it makes me feel like they are self interested and couldn't give a crap what the agency girls have to endure because he's a paying customer. Like he enjoys the fact that the young girl he's seeing has no choice who she sees and having a big chunk of her fee given to the agency owner.

Not all of you are like that of course, but there's still far too many. Some of you may in fact be awesome clients - it's just this general negative attitude that makes it harder for ladies to be happy and safe in this business. I think we should better this community and not increase the fear mongering because indies who screen are not the enemy. The enemy are the bad clients who make this hard on everyone instead. When you're one of the good guys you really have nothing to fear if you do your research and ensure that you are being discreet on your end about protecting your hobbying from those around you.

 

[ERecTile]

When i used to see SPs, it was almozt always agency girls. Not because of the lack of screening but because of simple logistics. There are at least 3 agency incalls in my area. After a while, i only dealt with one agency and got friendly with the operator to the point that she remembers me even though we have never talked on the phone or met in person. I think that if there was an indy that i was interested in working in my neck of the woods, i wouldnt mind going though her screening process. A lady's comfort level will drive how genuine she acts with you because if she is really comfortable, then it wont all be an act.

At the end of the day, in my humble inexperienced opinion, its her business, her body, her rules. Sure its our money, but thats why we come on these boards and do research. Im sure lots of guys have been burned before, but i think it was becasue they were in too much of a rush, didnt research, and believed the pics and the ads, or simply didnt care enough at the time. I dont know or care how other guys pick their indies, but if i were on the market, there would be lots of communication between us before i pulled the trigger. Its about my comfort level too, and while i dont screen, i do get a sense of how well i will connect with a particular lady based on our online and text interactions.

 

[Olivia Grace]

When i used to see SPs, it was almozt always agency girls. Not because of the lack of screening but because of simple logistics. There are at least 3 agency incalls in my area. After a while, i only dealt with one agency and got friendly with the operator to the point that she remembers me even though we have never talked on the phone or met in person. I think that if there was an indy that i was interested in working in my neck of the woods, i wouldnt mind going though her screening process. A lady's comfort level will drive how genuine she acts with you because if she is really comfortable, then it wont all be an act.

At the end of the day, in my humble inexperienced opinion, its her business, her body, her rules. Sure its our money, but thats why we come on these boards and do research. Im sure lots of guys have been burned before, but i think it was becasue they were in too much of a rush, didnt research, and believed the pics and the ads, or simply didnt care enough at the time. I dont know or care how other guys pick their indies, but if i were on the market, there would be lots of communication between us before i pulled the trigger. Its about my comfort level too, and while i dont screen, i do get a sense of how well i will connect with a particular lady based on our online and text interactions.

That's very true. If the peace of mind does go both ways, I guarantee that you will end up having a much better experience than if you rush into it. Listen to the man!

Xoxo

Olivia

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[Tommtom]

I see it like services from the trades (in this example it's renovating a house or apartment). No matter how much research you can do about a company or a client, you'll never really know their attitude until you see them (and their house) in person. Some people trust a company (service provider) to work for them and will leave them at their house while they go out and do xyz. Others would like to stay and check on how the workers are. Additions to their house would obviously be an upcharge (higher if they're an asshole). Some companies come to check out the area that needs to be worked on and see if they'd take the job or not; others will charge you time and material without checking.
Generally, the experience is nice when both people are actually communicative and listening.
The homeowner does NOT have a say in EVERYTHING that is done. Some things are literally impossible to do; but the workers will try their best to accommodate. If things aren't going well (with client attitude or worker inefficiency), both sides can call the job off.

I wouldn't want to go to a job and find out that the homeowner is a hoarder, nor would I want workers that would cause thousands in damages.
Realistically though, it's more likely you'll find a psychotic homeowner than an extremely lousy company.

In my opinion, people are.. well.. people. You can't predict anyone by previous or current actions. If someone wants to feel safer, it's not my say in the matter. I wouldn't hesitate if I hired a company and they said "Sorry, but we'll have to use safety equipment such as boots and a hardhat", and I think it should be the same way for screening.

 

[Olivia Grace]

I see it like services from the trades (in this example it's renovating a house or apartment). No matter how much research you can do about a company or a client, you'll never really know their attitude until you see them (and their house) in person. Some people trust a company (service provider) to work for them and will leave them at their house while they go out and do xyz. Others would like to stay and check on how the workers are. Additions to their house would obviously be an upcharge (higher if they're an asshole). Some companies come to check out the area that needs to be worked on and see if they'd take the job or not; others will charge you time and material without checking.
Generally, the experience is nice when both people are actually communicative and listening.
The homeowner does NOT have a say in EVERYTHING that is done. Some things are literally impossible to do; but the workers will try their best to accommodate. If things aren't going well (with client attitude or worker inefficiency), both sides can call the job off.

I wouldn't want to go to a job and find out that the homeowner is a hoarder, nor would I want workers that would cause thousands in damages.
Realistically though, it's more likely you'll find a psychotic homeowner than an extremely lousy company.

In my opinion, people are.. well.. people. You can't predict anyone by previous or current actions. If someone wants to feel safer, it's not my say in the matter. I wouldn't hesitate if I hired a company and they said "Sorry, but we'll have to use safety equipment such as boots and a hardhat", and I think it should be the same way for screening.

Another member who gets why we protect ourselves from the darker side of...well, everything. Now if only everyone could accept that it's literally only done for peace of mind. Le sigh.

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[zerealfroggy]

It is true that board credibility gives us no assurance of safety or good chemistry. I've had a few "hobbyists" book me and be rather ungentlemanly and treat me like a sex doll and some have even hurt me pretty severely. One time I had to go to the emergency room and couldn't work for 6 weeks because I took a chance seeing a "board member" with no reference. Never again. How is a 1 hour appt worth being out of work for 6 weeks? It just isn't.

I know what is easier - I just don't like the attitude of easiest is best, because honestly you guys don't realize what some of the agency girls have to put up with for their 60% cut.

The pros are that yes they don't have to pay a fortune in hotels/incall space and advertising, but they have absolutely no choice when it comes to which new clients walk through the door. They may be able to blacklist someone after the fact, but this is generally only for them and most of the Toronto incall agencies will send the same bad apple to another girl on the roster - caring only about their bottom line. There is a huge difference in how I feel about myself and my business now that I am indy versus working at an agency. I can actually consent to who I see and have a better chance of assuring good chemistry with someone. Whereas if you work for an agency and you have a bad behaving entitled client - well he can threaten to give you a bad review or go to the owner and demand they make it right, when if the lady had known what type of client he was she could have chosen to decline or suggest he find someone more to his service style.

After talking to many of my friends who used to work for agencies, they are much happier being independent, not just because they don't have to split their cut of the fee, but now they are able to throw someone out for bad behaviour or forcing them to do unsafe services etc without fear from their boss. Numerous girls have told me that an agency owner told her she had to be "good" to certain well known reviewers (not necessarily on this board) regardless of what they wanted - his happiness trumped all. And they were forced to deal with guys pushing their boundaries for porn star services they didn't want to give, and even fighting off guys trying to push them for bbfs.

And then there's the stories of agencies miscounting the girls money and demanding she pay more if someone lost it or creepy drivers trying to get free services from them etc.

There is a good side AND a bad side, and unfortunately many of you only focus on your side and don't realize why so many agency girls start and quit right away or go indy so fast. There's a lot of bad apples out there and by acting entitled like you don't care about our safety or security and you just want a cheap and anonymous easy lay - well you can see why some of us aren't having it anymore. Most of you have no idea how many agency girls are forced to or think they have to offer a huge PSE menu to even get a few bookings each week, when they don't want to. Or how many times someone has told me they had to turn away guys they saw at an agency for having visible STD's and how horrified they were they didn't care and came in to see them anyway.

I would say that about 25% of clients are really great in how they treat us, most are just average (again how they treat us), and then the remaining about are just rude/unhygienic/intolerable and this is why everyone says YMMV so much with ladies. You guys may THINK you know some of these guys based on their board personality, but a lot of them are completely different in session and not necessarily gentlemen.

While we can't insist that you see our side in this matter, it doesn't hurt to bring it up for those who are interested in knowing what it's like being an SP who doesn't have a choice in who she has to see.

Whenever I hear a guy saying he only wants to book agency girls because it's easier it makes me feel like they are self interested and couldn't give a crap what the agency girls have to endure because he's a paying customer. Like he enjoys the fact that the young girl he's seeing has no choice who she sees and having a big chunk of her fee given to the agency owner.

Not all of you are like that of course, but there's still far too many. Some of you may in fact be awesome clients - it's just this general negative attitude that makes it harder for ladies to be happy and safe in this business. I think we should better this community and not increase the fear mongering because indies who screen are not the enemy. The enemy are the bad clients who make this hard on everyone instead. When you're one of the good guys you really have nothing to fear if you do your research and ensure that you are being discreet on your end about protecting your hobbying from those around you.

Charlotte summarized all I think about agencies (with the Exception of Cupids because Jillian is scary, nice but still scary).

I started by seeing indies and never had issues going thought the screening process. Then the first time I contacted an agency I was expecting to at least being asked basic screening questions. Nope. "Who? What time? OK, call us when you get there. Oh! What is your name?" It may have changed, but I doubt it based on more recent discussions.

To be honest, I see the screening as part of how you should introduce yourself. And on my end it goes beyond the references as I have some expectations that need to be relayed beforehand (clothing, roleplay, how I would like things to go). It's also the right time to check if you and a lady click on paper. And let me tell you, if you do then you have a much better experience. The first time I met Sweet Bridgette, I extended our date before getting to her incall just because of the hot texts we were exchanging on my way to see her.

Nowadays, my screening process consists more in asking one lady if she knows another one and if she thinks we could get along. I then let her know that I will be contacting her friend and use her as reference. And usually the second lady already knows about me and the screening is done. It's also a great way to end-up in a three or foursome.

At the end of the day, it's all about safety and respect. And I for me it goes both ways as I have also declined seeing ladies I did not connect with via email. All I can say to conclude is that it's been years since I've been disappointed with a lady and I believe it's because both parties screen their encounters.

ZeFroggy

 

[Tommtom]

Another member who gets why we protect ourselves from the darker side of...well, everything. Now if only everyone could accept that it's literally only done for peace of mind. Le sigh.

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Just to play devil's advocate, (still using the homeowner analogy, hehe) some homeowners are also very insecure towards workers. (Maybe they'll find out about my secret panty drawer, or steal all the plates in the kitchen!) They won't let them have a single peak of their rooms, or even let them use the washroom! :Crying/:

 

[Olivia Grace]

Just to play devil's advocate, (still using the homeowner analogy, hehe) some homeowners are also very insecure towards workers. (Maybe they'll find out about my secret panty drawer, or steal all the plates in the kitchen!) They won't let them have a single peak of their rooms, or even let them use the washroom! :Crying/:

Lol

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[Madman]

Then go and see ladies who don't screen. Every single one of my lovely guests and patrons had no issue filling out my screening form. It takes all of what 10 minutes?? To be honest after having an awful encounter with an "established hobbyist" Where I was left quietly having panic attacks due to not being comfortable showed that the screening is also necessary to even accommodate. To say the least "thread reputation" is BULLSHIT. If you need a quick fix than, no a screening form is not for you.

The point that we are all trying to make is why are you even questioning it, if you won't go through the screening process? Just see girls who don't screen and leave it at that. I've had patrons when I first began, inquire but were scared to see me because I DIDN'T screen. The fact that you're complaining about this is absolutely juvenile and you need to give it a rest. We will continue to screen and the people that we would like to cater to will continue to fill them out in order to book an arrangement with us. If you don't deal with girls who screen than why are you so inclined to have answers? This doesn't concern you at all and does not affect you. There are so many reasons that we require screening and it annoys me that, this bothers you. Get over it.


SAFETY and ACCOMMODATIONS is priority as a companion and screening is the best way to keep these as priority. I'd also like to know the whole hobbyist thing? Do you get like a gold metal or something?? Your status doesn't assume who you are your personality does, how you present yourself does. All in all we are all different and not all puzzle pieces fit together. Just becuase you are reputable does not necessarily mean I can accommodate you. I hear hobbyist and I hear some narrator from the discovery channel assessing a lion hunting it's prey. Sorry not sorry.

My original complaint was of some ladies not giving referrals unless the client had numerous repeats with them not because of the screening. I would expect an independent to do some type of screening although you are right I wouldn't jump through hoops and I definitely would not share my employer or give my real last name.

BTW, your home page link does not work.

 

[Madman]

It is true that board credibility gives us no assurance of safety or good chemistry. I've had a few "hobbyists" book me and be rather ungentlemanly and treat me like a sex doll and some have even hurt me pretty severely. One time I had to go to the emergency room and couldn't work for 6 weeks because I took a chance seeing a "board member" with no reference. Never again. How is a 1 hour appt worth being out of work for 6 weeks? It just isn't.

The person/animal who hurt you and put you out for 6 weeks should be named and blacklisted from agencies and indys all over. I have no tolerance for violent encounters and he should have been charged.

I don't believe being an Agency girl is as bad as some paint it. Quite a few have tried the indy route and go back to the agencies. Indy is not for everyone and Agency is not for everyone but what is and should be for everyone is choice, the choice to choose how they conduct business and of course as the clients we choose who we give our business too.

 

[Shay Lovell]

My original complaint was of some ladies not giving referrals unless the client had numerous repeats with them not because of the screening. I would expect an independent to do some type of screening although you are right I wouldn't jump through hoops and I definitely would not share my employer or give my real last name.

BTW, your home page link does not work.

The link in my signature works fine... I fixed the URL in my home page. When I screen I don't REQUIRE work info but do require first and last name. I only ask this because THAT WAY I would feel safe and secure. I can make exceptions with specific situations but would need some form of screening process. I personally try to avoid references. The amount of snobbish women who have come back at me.. pain in the butt!

 

[CharloteEdwards]

The person/animal who hurt you and put you out for 6 weeks should be named and blacklisted from agencies and indys all over. I have no tolerance for violent encounters and he should have been charged.

I told him to be very gentle and he wasn't. I was quite sore after, and it turned into a huge medical problem after, when I didn't think it would initially. I told him later after one of my friends saw him and he didn't really care, we are at a disadvantage as sex workers, there's no way I'm going to out myself ever (which is necessary to charge someone) and risk further issues in my life. Have you seen how bad it gets on boards when SP's publicly shame/attack clients? Even victims of rape/assault are attacked by naysayers online. It's sick.

 

[cristycurves]

Have you seen how bad it gets on boards when SP's publicly shame/attack clients? Even victims of rape/assault are attacked by naysayers online. It's sick.

Yes it is sick and it is even sicker to allow them to get away with it that's intimidation, and I say don't fall for it. I will publish names and numbers of those who play games with me, and bring on the rebuts. There is NOTHING that hasn't been said or done to me that now can be. It pisses me off when other sp's won't respond in the same fashion. There are a plethora of guys and girls quite frankly, who like to play games and they NEED t o be outed. I'd prefer to face them, but most are to cowardly to accept that type of challenge, so I'll post on my blog or where ever I can. I'm a simple person, you treat me fairly, with respect, and I'll show you the same, play games or fuck me over and I too will give you the same or better and this isn't drama, it is standing up for oneself!!

 

[Analme]

Yes it is sick and it is even sicker to allow them to get away with it that's intimidation, and I say don't fall for it. I will publish names and numbers of those who play games with me, and bring on the rebuts. There is NOTHING that hasn't been said or done to me that now can be. It pisses me off when other sp's won't respond in the same fashion. There are a plethora of guys and girls quite frankly, who like to play games and they NEED t o be outed. I'd prefer to face them, but most are to cowardly to accept that type of challenge, so I'll post on my blog or where ever I can. I'm a simple person, you treat me fairly, with respect, and I'll show you the same, play games or fuck me over and I too will give you the same or better and this isn't drama, it is standing up for oneself!!

Although I can see where you're coming from but doesn't this further tell us the clients to never ever give an SP our real names. What if an SP perceives a wrong doing where really there was none, a misunderstanding but she's so angry she decides to publish the name?

Another issue is many ladies are attempting to use the US model where names are commonly used because of the law. In Canada the one at risk with the law is the client and this seems to be forgotten. Discretion is a big part of this industry, both for the SP and the client too, yes the client too.

Charlotte, the gentleman is no gentleman and you should share his info with other providers. If I'm not mistaken there are many forums for SP's only within different boards.

 

[cristycurves]

Although I can see where you're coming from but doesn't this further tell us the clients to never ever give an SP our real names. What if an SP perceives a wrong doing where really there was none, a misunderstanding but she's so angry she decides to publish the name?

Another issue is many ladies are attempting to use the US model where names are commonly used because of the law. In Canada the one at risk with the law is the client and this seems to be forgotten. Discretion is a big part of this industry, both for the SP and the client too, yes the client too.

Charlotte, the gentleman is no gentleman and you should share his info with other providers. If I'm not mistaken there are many forums for SP's only within different boards.

Comical....on every board there is a section where men can publicly out sp's and that is celebrated, and said to be necessary to protect one another, yet when we do the same, it gives reason to hobbyists to distrust all sp's, to hide, to feel a right to be shady. PLEASE!!
Many clients seem to get off on playing games and a game is a game, no misunderstanding. If he wants to waste someone's time, cause conflict or do something that "costs" an sp, then he needs to be outed. We too have lots to loose when we're posted about, and mistakes, misunderstanding can be made towards us, but that doesn't stop some hobbyists spreading around and posting our sp names, does it.
Fact remains, if you act like a gentlemen and play no games, you'll be treated like a gentleman and protected. If you have no agenda, then you have no worries, do you. I'm very sure before I post a name that the person has played me, so it's fair game. But SOME of you will use any excuse to justify hiding your identity.

and if you're going to worry about what ifs, perhaps it's best not to hobby at all.The best any of us can do is show respect to one another and do what you promise, when that can't be done, give a reason and apologize or compensate. Both sides have things to loose, both sides have things to protect, both sides have rights. Neither side should get away with abusing anyone in any way!!
as far as what ifs....
....what if she's a cop
what if she's a relative, one you didn't know about or have ever seen
what if she has an sti, or std
what if she is a man
what if she isn't good in bed
what if she and you have no chemistry
what if she is someone you know from school, work, etc
what if she is a friends sister, wife, girlfriend, etc
what if she isn't as attractive as her pics
what if they aren't her pics
what if she's highly reviewed but just not your cup of tea
what if, what if

 

[User-E]

Comical....on every board there is a section where men can publicly out sp's and that is celebrated, and said to be necessary to protect one another, yet when we do the same, it gives reason to hobbyists to distrust all sp's, to hide, to feel a right to be shady. PLEASE!!
Many clients seem to get off on playing games and a game is a game, no misunderstanding. If he wants to waste someone's time, cause conflict or do something that "costs" an sp, then he needs to be outed. We to have lots to loose when we're posted about, and mistakes, misunderstanding can be made towards us, but that doesn't stop some hobbyists spreading around and posting our names,does it.
Fact remains, if you act like a gentlemen and play no games, you'll be treated like a gentleman and protected. If you have no agenda, then you have no worries, do you. I'm very sure before I post a name that the person has played me, so it's fair game. But SOME of you will use any excuse to justify hiding your identity.

and if you're going to worry about what ifs, perhaps it's best not to hobby at all.The best any of us can do is show respect to one another and do what you promise, when that can't be done, give a reason and apologize or compensate. Both sides have things to loose, both sides have things to protect, both sides have rights. Neither side should get away with abusing anyone in any way!!
as far as what ifs....
....what if she's a cop
what if she's a relative, one you didn't know about or have ever seen
what if she has an sti, or std
what if she is a man
what if she isn't good in bed
what if she and you have no chemistry
what if she is someone you know from school, work, etc
what if she is a friends sister, wife, girlfriend, etc
what if she isn't as attractive as her pics
what if they aren't her pics
what if she's highly reviewed but just not your cup of tea
what if, what if

Do you mean 'reporting' rather than 'outing'? Reporting a bad date is different than outing someone.

Outing means posting their confidential personal info publicly, whereas reporting means posting their contact info/handle in a private forum to warn other providers about bad behavior.

Where is this place on HUBGFE where guys publicly 'out' SP's? People get banned for outing here as far as I know.