Send your prayers, well wishes and karma. Van strikes, 10 pedestrians at Yonge/Finch

[ROBERTSON]

Bull-fucking-shit. Disabled people are highly marginalized in this society and if anything, are more likely to be denied basic things like driving over able bodied people. Disabled people are also more likely to be institutionalized and victimized by police officers and loved ones.

Show me a case where a person's disability allowed them to "let it off easy" by courts and police officers?

Bull-fucking-shit to you too, what ever the fuck you are.

Your "friend" stated that the legal system should take into account his mental disability when sentencing, I simply commented on her statement.

If you don't agree with her, she's here on the board, be my guest.

But leave me out of your ignorant of reality ranting.

 

[ROBERTSON]

@demien3k5 uncle indeed hahahahah my bad, the judgement bit was directed at the countless amount of people in toronto who made preconceived ideas based on my appearance, disability or boyfriend. if your mom’s here that’s a whole other problem :LMAO: you make good arguments mate.
@ROBERTSON .....since you replied i guess i’m no longer a child??
- i’m aware there’s no death penalty here, doesn’t mean i don’t think he should get it. this is what i wish but it’s obviously not happening so instead, get the max. penalty + rehabilitation for his ASD to not recommit crime in jail. capisce?
- has the ability to rent a van and still has ability to kill. completely unrelated skill sets.
- ahhh so now i supposedly swear to impress. how cute! thanks for proving my point that you’re a hypocrite.
- i legally drive 90km/day 6x a week. that answer your question?
- no but discrimination is ableism and ageism. both of which you’ve shown here.

this thread has been hijacked by us enough. i will no longer reply to this petty argument. here’s another unnecessary expletive just because fuck.

And once again you change your story when confronted, but I'm used to that now.

So you got a drivers licence, that was NOT the answer I was hoping to hear.

And keep up the personal insults, that's really all you can post anyway.

 

[ROBERTSON]

Feels like you're doing nothing but scapegoating people with disabilities. Why does it matter how he got a van? It seems like you're trying to target disabled people as those who "shouldn't ever own a van" because according to you, only disabled people are capable of committing crimes like this. Now that's just very insulting. Anybody who belongs in an INCEL group who has a violently internalized misogyny will commit crimes like this, disabled or non-disabled.

What's your view on the whole PUA/MRA/MGTOW/incel groups may I ask?

As this language seems to what you prefer, Bull-fucking-shit.

You are ignorant and stupid to group people with physical disabilities , and those with mental disabilities.

I'm not "targeting" anybody, I have never stated that, "only disabled people are capable of committing crimes like this" , a bold face lie, but you and you "friends" seem to always fall back to that tactic.

So when are you going top put me on ignore, that actually seems to be a badge of honour here.

I'm going to make a statement here, so please quote, so your "friends" who have me on ignore will see it, assuming they are not lying about that also.

It seems obvious why more members leave here, than join, is because this board is over run by lying, personally insulting, man hating attack lesbians, happy now.

And if I get banned, so be it, not worth listening to a certain faction here.

 

[Crimson Angel]

Nobody here is saying that Alek should get lighter sentencing or excused for his crimes because of his disability. However, it is wrong to throw people with disabilities like Asperger's into the same pit of fire as Alek and claim that Alek mass murdered people BECAUSE of his disability. No, he committed that crime because he was an INCEL member who showed extreme hatred towards women. People with Asperger's may be more vulnerable to peer pressure and toxic masculinity, but that's about it, because ultimately it was toxic masculinity and male entitlement that caused him to commit such a crime.

P.S. I'm gender non-binary who's attracted to women so I guess that makes me a lesbian... maybe? Thanks captain obvious. Though I do not hate men, unless they are the ones who are toxic or have internalized bigotry.

 

[Winslow]

Nobody here is saying that Alek should get lighter sentencing or excused for his crimes because of his disability. However, it is wrong to throw people with disabilities like Asperger's into the same pit of fire as Alek and claim that Alek mass murdered people BECAUSE of his disability. No, he committed that crime because he was an INCEL member who showed extreme hatred towards women. People with Asperger's may be more vulnerable to peer pressure and toxic masculinity, but that's about it, because ultimately it was toxic masculinity and male entitlement that caused him to commit such a crime.

P.S. I'm gender non-binary who's attracted to women so I guess that makes me a lesbian... maybe? Thanks captain obvious. Though I do not hate men, unless they are the ones who are toxic or have internalized bigotry.

I was going to stay out of this cluster fawk of a thread, but I can't help myself--LOL I also have Aspergers and some anxiety issues as well. IMHO, I could be an Incel member, and that wouldn't mean I would rent a van and run over and kill 10 people.

Here's some facts about Aspergers. Only 10% of people with aspergers , can hold down a job. You either have to go on ODSP (if you have less than $5000 in assets), or hope for some family support.

I'm in my mid 50's, and I had a late diagnosis, as Aspergers only became a recognized disorder in 1994. I was fortunate to have some family support. With that being said, I voluntarily gave up my drivers license in 2003, and I gave up my passport as well, as I find travelling too stressful. I also had a vasectomy, when I was 30yrs old, as I knew I couldn't afford to support kids, and I was also afraid that if I did have a kid, that they might have aspergers as well, as it does tend to run in families.

So right now, I live in my own bachelor apt, I have no debt, and I can afford to see SP's occasionally. I gave up civilian dating a long time ago.

Just too repeat, I read controversial right wing social media sites, all the time, and that doesn't mean I'm going to run over 10 people with a van. I know this sounds mean, but I would rather have aspergers, then be confined to a wheelchair etc

As usual, just my opinion!!

 

[Winslow]

As this language seems to what you prefer, Bull-fucking-shit.

You are ignorant and stupid to group people with physical disabilities , and those with mental disabilities.

I'm not "targeting" anybody, I have never stated that, "only disabled people are capable of committing crimes like this" , a bold face lie, but you and you "friends" seem to always fall back to that tactic.

So when are you going top put me on ignore, that actually seems to be a badge of honour here.

I'm going to make a statement here, so please quote, so your "friends" who have me on ignore will see it, assuming they are not lying about that also.

It seems obvious why more members leave here, than join, is because this board is over run by lying, personally insulting, man hating lesbians, happy now.

And if I get banned, so be it, not worth listening to a certain faction here.

IMHO, physical disabilities are different then mental disabilities. You could be confined to a wheelchair, yet your brain is totally normal. Whereas if you have aspergers, our brains think differently then normal NT (neuro typical) people.
@ROBERTSON, You're certainly entitled to your opinion. IMHO, there's no right or wrong answer.

 

[Winslow]

those with Asperger’s give themselves self-imposed driving restrictions bc they want to avoid overstimulating environments e.g. bright sun, highways—there are no legal limitations for ASD that i’m aware of as long as they are medically cleared. there are so many things even “normal” people have to be medically cleared for before driving, even if you’ve fainted in the past year from dehydration. they are still able to rent and drive like anyone else and are actually super intelligent in one particular area. i knew an amazing surgeon with Asperger’s.



i think the newscasts are blaming it on him being an “incel” or involuntarilary celibate.. read somewhere that he wanted to die by cop shooting. i met one of the victims a year ago, it’s fucking sad someone would do this.

@Muckchelle, I agree with you. I gave up my drivers license voluntarily. IMHO, this alec guy ran over and killed 10 people, because he was sick deranged individual, and not because of the incel movement.

 

[Winslow]

Jessica.......Trying to understand him is not what the victims and their families need.....They need justice not excuses.

I agree. You could get 5000 asperger people reading this incel crap, and nobody is going to rent a van and run over and kill 10 people. You can't censor social media sites, just because of one crazy deranged individual.

 

[Winslow]

i don't understand how people do this either.

However, revenge and hate filled situations towards women for rejecting a man, is not something new to most women.

Women are always having to be on guard when rejecting men. For whatever reason. Like they are already married. Could have nothing to do with guy himself but he can still go off.

We are horrible people because we don't fuck a man when he wants. Sadly, that type of thinking is not new to us.

on a side note: glad you are still with us

In hindsight, Minassian should have just seen some SP's on HUBGFE. Then maybe he wouldn't have been so sexually frustrated, and killed all those people. You never know??

Men get rejected by women all the time. That doesn't mean they kill people. IMHO, you'll never be able to control the occasional psychotic deranged lunatic, who decides to run down 10 people in a van. Just too repeat, you could have 10000 autistic men support Elliot Rodger and nothing would happen.

 

[Crimson Angel]

I was going to stay out of this cluster fawk of a thread, but I can't help myself--LOL I also have Aspergers and some anxiety issues as well. IMHO, I could be an Incel member, and that wouldn't mean I would rent a van and run over and kill 10 people.

Here's some facts about Aspergers. Only 10% of people with aspergers , can hold down a job. You either have to go on ODSP (if you have less than $5000 in assets), or hope for some family support.

I'm in my mid 50's, and I had a late diagnosis, as Aspergers only became a recognized disorder in 1994. I was fortunate to have some family support. With that being said, I voluntarily gave up my drivers license in 2003, and I gave up my passport as well, as I find travelling too stressful. I also had a vasectomy, when I was 30yrs old, as I knew I couldn't afford to support kids, and I was also afraid that if I did have a kid, that they might have aspergers as well, as it does tend to run in families.

So right now, I live in my own bachelor apt, I have no debt, and I can afford to see SP's occasionally. I gave up civilian dating a long time ago.

Just too repeat, I read controversial right wing social media sites, all the time, and that doesn't mean I'm going to run over 10 people with a van. I know this sounds mean, but I would rather have aspergers, then be confined to a wheelchair etc

As usual, just my opinion!!

Yay great minds think alike!

I was diagnosed with Aspergers during my early 20s. I also have a significant problem with speech and others might confuse me as being partially mute but I really am not. In fact I can write better than most people.

I really REALLY hate how most people enjoy using Asperger's as a scapegoat, vilifying us and labelling us as dangerous because they don't understand how we function. Remember Doug Ford who enjoy shitting on autistic people? God forbid if he enact rules that restrict us from our basic human rights in response to that incident. I sincerely hope Ford does NOT become the premier.

I'm also in the same boat as you are Winslow - also had a vasectomy (not only because I could not support kids with my current income but ALSO I'm gender non-binary and don't want to go through the clusterfuck of "oh this kid has two mommies what shall we do?"), and my current job sucks complete and utter ass. Labour worker at Canadian Tire making only $10.25 bucks an hour where I can only see SP's once a month if I'm lucky. It's pricey but that's pretty much all that I spend it on - I don't go on vacation and I don't spend more than $10 a day on food.

Sorry if a lot of what I said appear very strong points but I came from a very socialist background so I might be somewhat skewed when it comes to discussion about these topics. Since you and me have so much in common I can definitely try to learn a lot of things from you.

 

[Winslow]

Yay great minds think alike!

I was diagnosed with Aspergers during my early 20s. I also have a significant problem with speech and others might confuse me as being partially mute but I really am not. In fact I can write better than most people.

I really REALLY hate how most people enjoy using Asperger's as a scapegoat, vilifying us and labelling us as dangerous because they don't understand how we function. Remember Doug Ford who enjoy shitting on autistic people? God forbid if he enact rules that restrict us from our basic human rights in response to that incident. I sincerely hope Ford does NOT become the premier.

I'm also in the same boat as you are Winslow - also had a vasectomy (not only because I could not support kids with my current income but ALSO I'm gender non-binary and don't want to go through the clusterfuck of "oh this kid has two mommies"), and my current job sucks complete and utter ass. Labour worker at Canadian Tire making only $10.25 bucks an hour where I can only see SP's once a month if I'm lucky. It's pricey but that's pretty much all that I spend it on - I don't go on vacation and I don't spend more than $10 a day on food.

CA, I know exactly what you mean. You write very well, by the way. I also have significant social problems as well. i either talk too much or talk too little, and I have trouble picking up non verbal cues etc

I guess over the yrs, I've just developed a thick skin. IMHO, a main reason why a lot of people with aspergers are marginalized, is that we're not stupid people, yet we can't find jobs that are in line with our intellect. I used to be embarassed that I have aspergers, but now I don't really care who knows.

Just too repeat, I'd still rather have aspergers then have a physical disability. CA, I really enjoy your posts. However, I disagree with you again, as I really want Doug Ford to win....LMAO

 

[Winslow]

Yay great minds think alike!

I was diagnosed with Aspergers during my early 20s. I also have a significant problem with speech and others might confuse me as being partially mute but I really am not. In fact I can write better than most people.

I really REALLY hate how most people enjoy using Asperger's as a scapegoat, vilifying us and labelling us as dangerous because they don't understand how we function. Remember Doug Ford who enjoy shitting on autistic people? God forbid if he enact rules that restrict us from our basic human rights in response to that incident. I sincerely hope Ford does NOT become the premier.

I'm also in the same boat as you are Winslow - also had a vasectomy (not only because I could not support kids with my current income but ALSO I'm gender non-binary and don't want to go through the clusterfuck of "oh this kid has two mommies what shall we do?"), and my current job sucks complete and utter ass. Labour worker at Canadian Tire making only $10.25 bucks an hour where I can only see SP's once a month if I'm lucky. It's pricey but that's pretty much all that I spend it on - I don't go on vacation and I don't spend more than $10 a day on food.

Sorry if a lot of what I said appear very strong points but I came from a very socialist background so I might be somewhat skewed when it comes to discussion about these topics. Since you and me have so much in common I can definitely try to learn a lot of things from you.

Hi CA, I didn't catch the last part of your post. IMHO, that was a smart move you had a vasectomy. I'm in the same boat as you, as I have to save up to see SP's as well. I'm just glad that SP's exist, or I would never get laid---LOL

 

[Signingin]

I am at awed with the openness of members here. I hope it helps you out discussing your real issues without facing backlashes from other members.

 

[Crimson Angel]

I had a very close "oh shit" moment back in Grade 12 when a condom broke. I was scared shitless I would have to pay child support with my non-existant income. Good thing she didn't get pregnant but good god was that the scariest 6-9 months of my life especially when considering me and her went to different universities. After that I told myself no sex until I get a vasectomy. It ate up my schoolwork so much I had to repeat a few courses over the summer.

I don't care what others say; I don't want children period. Having a snip was just there for assurance, to make sure that there will never be a situation where "oh shit" moments will arise. I'm still going to use a condom every time; it's just that I wouldn't be going home and dwell on that event thinking to myself "what if there was a breakage I didn't know about and 1 month later she tells me she's pregnant?"

On top of that having sperm will re-inforce the fact that I am born male which would make me uncomfortable because I am not male. So I want that fucking ugly alien juice to be rid of my body at all costs.

The average cost of seeing an SP costs me 3 days of work. The last SP that I saw, it took me 5 days of work just to be able to afford seeing Amber.

I respect SP's a lot and never understood why people look down at them so much. They provide us a service, an opportunity that we couldn't otherwise get. We should be thankful of them. I am grateful for every SP's that I see, even the mediocre ones; after all it's a difficult job that taxes the mind and endurance.

 

[Crimson Angel]

CA, I know exactly what you mean. You write very well, by the way. I also have significant social problems as well. i either talk too much or talk too little, and I have trouble picking up non verbal cues etc

I guess over the yrs, I've just developed a thick skin. IMHO, a main reason why a lot of people with aspergers are marginalized, is that we're not stupid people, yet we can't find jobs that are in line with our intellect. I used to be embarassed that I have aspergers, but now I don't really care who knows.

Just too repeat, I'd still rather have aspergers then have a physical disability. CA, I really enjoy your posts. However, I disagree with you again, as I really want Doug Ford to win....LMAO

LOL I am completely awful at social situations. A bar setting feels like a prison to me, that's how bad it is.

As for jobs the problem is I didn't even graduate university, lol (because I have very strong exam-phobia and had to bail out of a ton of exams due to anxiety), which means I don't know what I should be doing. Maybe I should go back to school someday in the future.

 

[Winslow]

I had a very close "oh shit" moment back in Grade 12 when a condom broke. I was scared shitless I would have to pay child support with my non-existant income. Good thing she didn't get pregnant but good god was that the scariest 6-9 months of my life especially when considering me and her went to different universities. After that I told myself no sex until I get a vasectomy. It ate up my schoolwork so much I had to repeat a few courses over the summer.

I don't care what others say; I don't want children period. Having a snip was just there for assurance, to make sure that there will never be a situation where "oh shit" moments will arise. I'm still going to use a condom every time; it's just that I wouldn't be going home and dwell on that event thinking to myself "what if there was a breakage I didn't know about and 1 month later she tells me she's pregnant?"

On top of that having sperm will re-inforce the fact that I am born male which would make me uncomfortable because I am not male. So I want that fucking ugly alien juice to be rid of my body at all costs.

The average cost of seeing an SP costs me 3 days of work. The last SP that I saw, it took me 5 days of work just to be able to afford seeing Amber.

I respect SP's a lot and never understood why people look down at them so much. They provide us a service, an opportunity that we couldn't otherwise get. We should be thankful of them. I am grateful for every SP's that I see, even the mediocre ones; after all it's a difficult job that taxes the mind and endurance.

Awesome post. When I got my vasectomy in the early 1990's, I had to get a special note from my Family Doctor. I took this note to a Urologist at the sunnybrook hospital in Toronto. the urologist asks me "are you 100% sure you want to do this." I said, "I've never been more sure about anything in my life." I then got the vasectomy, a week later. One of the best moves, I ever made in my life!!

 

[Winslow]

LOL I am completely awful at social situations. A bar setting feels like a prison to me, that's how bad it is.

As for jobs the problem is I didn't even graduate university, lol (because I have very strong exam-phobia and had to bail out of a ton of exams due to anxiety), which means I don't know what I should be doing. Maybe I should go back to school someday in the future.

CA, not to be negative, but even if you graduate from university, getting a decent job will still be a problem. If you notice Alek had a lot of jobs, and couldn't hold on to one for very long.

I'm just glad that I no longer have to look for a job. Right now it's easier for me living in my mid 50's, then it was in my 20's that's for sure!!

 

[Guest]

what a hell of a thread... CA and Winslow, i appreciate your input on personal experiences with Asperger’s—i know many would’ve rather stayed away and kept their mouth shut to avoid robertson insulting people with autism. i assume he is still rambling his dumb ass off to make up for his small everything. anyway, it’s admirable that both of you are so open to discussing it! i’m glad you spoke up :good: winslow—love that you tried to keep the peace to some degree hahahah it’s impossible with that guy good job.

 

[Winslow]

what a hell of a thread... CA and Winslow, i appreciate your input on personal experiences with Asperger’s—i know many would’ve rather stayed away and kept their mouth shut to avoid robertson insulting people with autism. i assume he is still rambling his dumb ass off to make up for his small everything. anyway, it’s admirable that both of you are so open to discussing it! i’m glad you spoke up :good: winslow—love that you tried to keep the peace to some degree hahahah it’s impossible with that guy good job.

Thanks Muckchelle, I really appreciate the excellent comments you made in this thread as well. Much appreciated!!

 

[Crimson Angel]

what a hell of a thread... CA and Winslow, i appreciate your input on personal experiences with Asperger’s—i know many would’ve rather stayed away and kept their mouth shut to avoid robertson insulting people with autism. i assume he is still rambling his dumb ass off to make up for his small everything. anyway, it’s admirable that both of you are so open to discussing it! i’m glad you spoke up :good: winslow—love that you tried to keep the peace to some degree hahahah it’s impossible with that guy good job.

Thanks. I'm quite open about everything, even being gender non-binary in a forum dominated by cis-heterosexual men. At the end of the day if they are unwilling to accept who I am it's their problem not mine. I am who I am; I was born this way and hiding myself is essentially silencing myself.